Chairperson, on a point of order: I want you to make a ruling with regard to the decorum of this committee and the decorum of this House. And, with all due respect, the hon Mathebe has a history of making these kinds of jokes, and we are busy with a really serious type of debate. We have a Minister and a Deputy Minister and a chairperson who feel very seriously about addressing the issues, and it's a tragedy that we end the debate with this kind of person who doesn't even have a speech. [Interjections.]