Chairperson, I apologised to the Minister in advance. Unfortunately we only have time to speak now, and if the hon member can't understand that, I'll explain it to him afterwards. [Laughter.]
Lastly, I want to say that in terms of the tariff increases we are happy with the notion that these be phased in and that we protect the indigent and other vulnerable people in our society. We want to put on record that it is time that the management of Eskom took responsibility for the crisis that we face as a country. It really is inexcusable that these sorts of things happen and no one is held accountable. In a private company it wouldn't happen. In a good public entity that is governed properly this would not be the case. We in Cope certainly would want to take this issue up. We want follow-through to find out who are the idiots that allowed us to get into the position that we did as a country.
In conclusion, I want to say thank you to the department for their engagement. The director-general was not there and we missed him terribly, because he is such a familiar face. I don't know if you will be Director- General of Mining or Energy in the future or whatever, but we missed you. We had a wonderful engagement with the department and we look forward, as a committee, to a fantastic relationship over the next five years. Thank you. [Applause.]