The money was borrowed. The road was built. It does not matter how you feel about it, you cannot roll it like you can roll out this carpet and take it away. It is there now. Someone has got to pay for it. [Interjections.]
This Cabinet then effected reductions. At first, the fee was supposed to be 66c per kilometre, it then went down to 40c. But then we have exempted all public transport - taxis and buses on that. But that exemption was based on our calculation that we will still be able to pay for the loan that has been taken.
With regard to phase 2 of the tolls - Winelands and other areas - we have decided to go back and discuss it again.
Vote No 38 - Water Affairs: