Sihlalo, Ngqongqotjhe womNyango, maLunga aHloniphekileko, nabantu boke abakhona lapha abathintene nomNyango wezobuKghwari namaSiko. Okokuthoma kuyangithabisa ukuzwa amalunga aphikisako adzubhula lokho ekhe kwakhulunywa barholi behlangano ye-ANC. [Iwahlo.] Lokho kutjho bona ihlangano le ye-ANC ayidosi phambili amalunga wabo kwaphela, kodwana idosa phambili woke umuntu.

Kodwana ngisesephezu kwaleyondaba kufanele ngizame ngincede bona mhlambe amanye amalunga asafika ehlanganweni ye-DA. Ngomnyaka ihlangano ye-DA ithome ngawo umnyaka waka-1994, nakuvowutelwa uMongameli walokha uMandela ngo-1994, ngibo egade bamphikisa. Kunesikhathi lapho idorobha nanyana isifunda sangapha ngeTjhingalanga Kapa khesaphathwa yihlangano ye-ANC, khekwafuneka bona kutjhentjhwe amabizo weentrada abizwe ngebizo lakaMandela, kwayiwa ekhotho bona balwisane nokobana kungani kufanele abizwe ngebizo lakaMandela. Namhlanje bayeza lapha benza ngathi uMandela ngewabo. [Iwahlo.]

Mhlambe ke ngincede nalabo abangaziko bona kwenzekeni ekomidini. Sibenekomidi sihlangene kathathu. Amalunga la ahloniphekileko gade bathule ngathi bangesontweni. [Ihleko.] [Iwahlo.] Nabafika lapha izinto eziphakamiswe liqembu le-ANC ngizo abafuna bona babe bophambili ngazo. Njengendaba ye-2% kuhlekuhle iphakamiswe malunga we-ANC aze aletha nesisombululo sayo. Namhlanje bafuna ukukhamba phambili ngayo. Abanamahloni!

Akhe nginitjele okhunye eningakwaziko nasifika emaphelelweni nakufanelwe bona kwamukelwe isabelomali, thina be-ANC siye sacabanga bona sijamele eqadi bona sibone bona kuzokwenzekani. Ilunga elihloniphekileko le-EFF, ngiyaphosisa, ubaba uRabutapi olilunga le-DA watjhukumisa wathi, "Njeke, siyatjhukumisa bona isabelomalesi samukelwe." [Ihleko.] Ilunga le-EFF lasikima lathi, "Ngiyasekela." [Ihleko.] [Iwahlo.] (Translation of isiNdebele paragraphs follows.)

[Mr J L MAHLANGU: Chairperson, Minister of the Department, Hon members and all our guests who are committed to the Department of Arts and culture. It is my pleasure to hear members debating and quoting what has been said by former members of the ANC. [Applause.]This means that the ANC does not only lead its members, but everyone.

Let me also acknowledge that some DA members are new in the DA party. In 1994 when the DA was formed, when our former President Mandela was to be voted in during 1994, they were against his election. During the time when the town or the Western Cape province was under the governance of the ANC and street names were to be changed and named after Mandela, a court was approached and an explanation was demanded as to why this has to happen. Today they are speaking as if they own Mandela. [Applause.]

Let me help those who do not know what happens in the committee. We met three times. These hon members were so quiet as if they were in church. [Laughter.] [Applause.] They are here debating the views of the ANC and they want them debated as their views. The issue of 2% was raised by the ANC and they also had the solution thereof. Today they want to take a leading role in this issue. They are not ashamed!

Let me also tell you something you don't know. When we were about to vote on the budget, we the ANC members stood back and waited to see what would happen. The hon member of the EFF- I am mistaken- Mr Rabutapi who is a member of the DA proposed and said: "We propose that this proposed budget be accepted."[Laughter.] The member of the EFF stood up and said, "I support the proposal." [Laughter.] [Applause.]]

We are called "hon members" and this designation only applies to us in this House. We are called "honourable" because the South African community and the world accept that we are honourable people and that we are worth the title. This is an ethical matter. We cannot, as hon members, be dishonourable. If we are dishonourable, then we are not worth the title "honourable" and we have actually disappointed our voters. We would need to go back to the drawing board and revisit what we are saying, because we would not be worth the title "hon members".

Anyway, may I continue with my speech? Indeed, it is a ... [Interjections.]