Chairperson, I hear that it is at about this time of the year that the hon Minister does her Christmas shopping. Members of this House will be aware that the hon Minister is in the process of buying the hon Deputy President a very big Christmas present. We hear that the Minister is in the process of buying two business jets. We also hear that the Minister is in the process of leasing two business jets. All these jets will cost billions of rands. Would the Minister tell this House whether she really believes that it is justified to purchase business jets at the cost of billions of rands when so many of our people are poor and destitute?