Madam Deputy Speaker, on a point of order: I would just like the hon member to explain who the "bruinmense" [brown people] are.
I believe that it's extremely racist and that it should be withdrawn. [Interjections.] It was the hon member Alberts from the FF Plus. Thank you.
Adv A de W ALBERTS: Minister, daar is mense in Suid-Afrika wat hulself so noem, en ek aanvaar dit ook so. Ek ken persoonlik sulke mense.
Party mense noem hulself kleurlinge en dan is daar mense wat hulself Suid- Afrikaners noem. Maar daar is al hierdie tipes in Suid-Afrika, en ek weet dat daar teen daardie spesifieke groep mense ook gediskrimineer word.
As u 'n beter benaming het, dan sal ek dit gebruik. Ek wil nie minagting teenoor u of enige mense in die Parlement of in Suid-Afrika toon nie. As u enige beter benamings het om 'n groep mense te omskryf, sal ek dit waardeer. Baie dankie. (Translation of Afrikaans paragraphs follows.)
[Adv A de W ALBERTS: Minister, there are people in South Africa who call themselves this and therefore I accept that this is how it is. I personally know such people.
Some people call themselves coloured and then there are people who call themselves South Africans. But there are all these people of this description in South Africa and I am aware that this specific group of people are also discriminated against.
If you have a more suitable term, then I will use that. I do not want to disrespect you or any person in Parliament or in South Africa. If you have a more suitable term to describe a group of people, I would appreciate it. Thank you.]