Order! Hon members, we now come to the Consideration of Votes and Schedule of the Appropriation Bill. Could I propose that in order for us to move a little bit faster, we don't use the electronic voting system and follow the normal procedure? When we start, I will announce how we are going to sit so that we expedite the process. Does the House agree with that? Okay, that's fine.
As there is no speakers' list, I shall now put the Votes in the order in which they appear on the schedule to the Bill. Before I do so, I would like to remind members that during voting the doors will be closed. I hope you have checked that everybody is inside, because we don't want to lock people out. Are all members from all sides inside the House? Vote No 1 - The Presidency - put.
Division demanded.
The Council divided:
AYES - 35: Adams, F; Boroto, M G; Bloem, D V; Chaane, T E; De Beer, C J; Dikgale, M C; Duma, S; Feldman, D B; Gamede, D D; Gunda, J J; Jacobs, M P; Magadla, N W; Maine, M C; Makgate, M W; Mashamaite, T A; Mashile, B L; Matila, A G; Makhubela, M W; Memela, T C; Mlenzana, Z; Mncube, B V; Mnguni, B A; Mofokeng, T M H; Montsitsi, S D; Moshodi, M L; Nesi, B; Ntwanambi, N D; Nzimande, L P M; Qikani, A N D; Rantho, D Z; Rasmeni, R N; Sibande, M P; Sinclair, K A; Shabalala, N B; Themba, M P.
NOES - 10: Bekker, J M G; Chen, S S; De Villiers, M J R; Faber, W F; Groenewald, H B; Harris, T D; Lees, R A; Van Lingen, E C; Watson, A; Worth, D A.
Vote accordingly agreed to (Democratic Alliance dissenting).
Vote No 2 - Parliament - put and agreed to.
Vote No 3 - Co-operative Governance and Traditional Affairs - put.
Division demanded. The Council divided:
AYES - 38: Adams, F; Boroto, M G; Bloem, D V; Chaane, T E; De Beer, C J; de Beer, O; Dikgale, M C; Duma, S; Feldman, D B; Gamede, D D; Gunda, J J; Jacobs, M P; Magadla, N W; Maine, M C; Makgate, M W; Makhubela, M W; Mashamaite, T A; Mashile, B L; Matila, A G; Memela, T C; Mlenzana, Z; Mncube, B V; Mnguni, B A; Mofokeng, T M H; Montsitsi, S D; Moshodi, M L; Nesi, B; Ntwanambi, N D; Nzimande, L P M; Plaatjie, S H; Qikani, A N D; Rantho, D Z; Rasmeni, R N; Sibande, M P; Sinclair, K A; Shabalala, N B; Tau, R J; Themba, M P.
NOES - 10: Bekker, J M G; Chen, S S; De Villiers, M J R; Faber, W F; Groenewald, H B; Harris, T D; Lees, R A; Van Lingen, E C; Watson, A; Worth, D A.
Vote accordingly agreed to (Democratic Alliance dissenting).
Vote No 4 - Home Affairs - put and agreed to.
Vote No 5 - International Relations and Co-operation - put and agreed to.
Vote No 6 - Public Works - put and agreed to.
Vote No 7 - Women, Children and People with Disabilities - put. Division demanded.
The Council divided:
AYES - 38: Adams, F; Boroto, M G; Bloem, D V; Chaane, T E; De Beer, C J; de Beer, O; Dikgale, M C; Duma, S; Feldman, D B; Gamede, D D; Gunda, J J; Jacobs, M P; Magadla, N W; Maine, M C; Makgate, M W; Makhubela, M W; Mashamaite, T A; Mashile, B L; Matila, A G; Memela, T C; Mlenzana, Z; Mncube, B V; Mnguni, B A; Mofokeng, T M H; Montsitsi, S D; Moshodi, M L; Nesi, B; Ntwanambi, N D; Nzimande, L P M; Plaatjie, S H; Qikani, A N D; Rantho, D Z; Rasmeni, R N; Sibande, M P; Sinclair, K A; Shabalala, N B; Tau, R J; Themba, M P.
NOES - 10: Bekker, J M G; Chen, S S; De Villiers, M J R; Faber, W F; Groenewald, H B; Harris, T D; Lees, R A; Van Lingen, E C; Watson, A; Worth, D A.
Vote accordingly agreed to (Democratic Alliance dissenting).
Vote No 8 - Government Communication and Information System - put and agreed to.
Vote No 9 - National Treasury - put and agreed to.
Vote No 10 - Public Enterprises - put. Division demanded.
The Council divided:
AYES - 38: Adams, F; Boroto, M G; Bloem, D V; Chaane, T E; De Beer, C J; de Beer, O; Dikgale, M C; Duma, S; Feldman, D B; Gamede, D D; Gunda, J J; Jacobs, M P; Magadla, N W; Maine, M C; Makgate, M W; Makhubela, M W; Mashamaite, T A; Mashile, B L; Matila, A G; Memela, T C; Mlenzana, Z; Mncube, B V; Mnguni, B A; Mofokeng, T M H; Montsitsi, S D; Moshodi, M L; Nesi, B; Ntwanambi, N D; Nzimande, L P M; Plaatjie, S H; Qikani, A N D; Rantho, D Z; Rasmeni, R N; Sibande, M P; Sinclair, K A; Shabalala, N B; Tau, R J; Themba, M P.
NOES - 10: Bekker, J M G; Chen, S S; De Villiers, M J R; Faber, W F; Groenewald, H B; Harris, T D; Lees, R A; Van Lingen, E C; Watson, A; Worth, D A.
Vote accordingly agreed to (Democratic Alliance dissenting).
Chairperson, I just want to raise a procedural matter as a point of order once you finish with this specific Vote.
What is your point?
Chairperson, I want to raise a point of order on a procedural matter. The Rule is very specific that once the voting starts, members who are outside must stay outside. Unfortunately, the officials allowed three members to come in when the voting had already started. Since it is an important matter, I would like those particular members to be outside of the House, please.
All right, we will check the Rules quickly. The Table staff has just advised me that if a member is outside while a particular Vote is being tabled in the House, he or she can't vote on that Vote. But, if a member is in the House when a Vote is tabled, the member can vote. [Applause.]
Vote No 11 - Public Service and Administration - put.
Vote agreed to (Democratic Alliance dissenting).
Vote No 12 - Statistics South Africa - put and agreed to.
Vote No 13 - Arts and Culture - put and agreed to.
Vote No 14 - Basic Education - put.
Division demanded.
The Council divided:
AYES - 38: Adams, F; Boroto, M G; Bloem, D V; Chaane, T E; De Beer, C J; de Beer, O; Dikgale, M C; Duma, S; Feldman, D B; Gamede, D D; Gunda, J J; Jacobs, M P; Magadla, N W; Maine, M C; Makgate, M W; Makhubela, M W; Mashamaite, T A; Mashile, B L; Matila, A G; Memela, T C; Mlenzana, Z; Mncube, B V; Mnguni, B A; Mofokeng, T M H; Montsitsi, S D; Moshodi, M L; Nesi, B; Ntwanambi, N D; Nzimande, L P M; Plaatjie, S H; Qikani, A N D; Rantho, D Z; Rasmeni, R N; Sibande, M P; Sinclair, K A; Shabalala, N B; Tau, R J; Themba, M P.
NOES - 10: Bekker, J M G; Chen, S S; De Villiers, M J R; Faber, W F; Groenewald, H B; Harris, T D; Lees, R A; Van Lingen, E C; Watson, A; Worth, D A.
Vote accordingly agreed to (Democratic Alliance dissenting).
Vote No 15 - Health - put.
Division demanded.
The Council divided:
AYES - 38: Adams, F; Boroto, M G; Bloem, D V; Chaane, T E; De Beer, C J; de Beer, O; Dikgale, M C; Duma, S; Feldman, D B; Gamede, D D; Gunda, J J; Jacobs, M P; Magadla, N W; Maine, M C; Makgate, M W; Makhubela, M W; Mashamaite, T A; Mashile, B L; Matila, A G; Memela, T C; Mlenzana, Z; Mncube, B V; Mnguni, B A; Mofokeng, T M H; Montsitsi, S D; Moshodi, M L; Nesi, B; Ntwanambi, N D; Nzimande, L P M; Plaatjie, S H; Qikani, A N D; Rantho, D Z; Rasmeni, R N; Sibande, M P; Sinclair, K A; Shabalala, N B; Tau, R J; Themba, M P.
NOES - 10: Bekker, J M G; Chen, S S; De Villiers, M J R; Faber, W F; Groenewald, H B; Harris, T D; Lees, R A; Van Lingen, E C; Watson, A; Worth, D A.
Vote accordingly agreed to (Democratic Alliance dissenting).
What is the problem, hon Gunda? I said that there would be no debate once we started voting.
Chair, I would just like to make a statement.
No, you are not going to make any statement. That's exactly what I meant: Once we start voting, no statements will be made. Do you want to make a statement, or what?
Chair, I find it very strange that the very same people who are crying for service delivery object to the Votes. If there is a problem ...
Hon Gunda, it is all right. You may sit down. [Laughter.]
Vote No 16 - Higher Education and Training - put.
Division demanded.
The Council divided:
AYES - 38: Adams, F; Boroto, M G; Bloem, D V; Chaane, T E; De Beer, C J; de Beer, O; Dikgale, M C; Duma, S; Feldman, D B; Gamede, D D; Gunda, J J; Jacobs, M P; Magadla, N W; Maine, M C; Makgate, M W; Makhubela, M W; Mashamaite, T A; Mashile, B L; Matila, A G; Memela, T C; Mlenzana, Z; Mncube, B V; Mnguni, B A; Mofokeng, T M H; Montsitsi, S D; Moshodi, M L; Nesi, B; Ntwanambi, N D; Nzimande, L P M; Plaatjie, S H; Qikani, A N D; Rantho, D Z; Rasmeni, R N; Sibande, M P; Sinclair, K A; Shabalala, N B; Tau, R J; Themba, M P.
NOES - 10: Bekker, J M G; Chen, S S; De Villiers, M J R; Faber, W F; Groenewald, H B; Harris, T D; Lees, R A; Van Lingen, E C; Watson, A; Worth, D A.
Vote accordingly agreed to (Democratic Alliance dissenting).
Vote No 17 - Labour - put. Vote agreed to (Democratic Alliance dissenting).
Vote No 18 - Social Development - put and agreed to.
Vote No 19 - Sport and Recreation South Africa - put.
Division demanded.
The Council divided:
AYES - 38: Adams, F; Boroto, M G; Bloem, D V; Chaane, T E; De Beer, C J; de Beer, O; Dikgale, M C; Duma, S; Feldman, D B; Gamede, D D; Gunda, J J; Jacobs, M P; Magadla, N W; Maine, M C; Makgate, M W; Makhubela, M W; Mashamaite, T A; Mashile, B L; Matila, A G; Memela, T C; Mlenzana, Z; Mncube, B V; Mnguni, B A; Mofokeng, T M H; Montsitsi, S D; Moshodi, M L; Nesi, B; Ntwanambi, N D; Nzimande, L P M; Plaatjie, S H; Qikani, A N D; Rantho, D Z; Rasmeni, R N; Sibande, M P; Sinclair, K A; Shabalala, N B; Tau, R J; Themba, M P.
NOES - 10: Bekker, J M G; Chen, S S; De Villiers, M J R; Faber, W F; Groenewald, H B; Harris, T D; Lees, R A; Van Lingen, E C; Watson, A; Worth, D A.
Vote accordingly agreed to (Democratic Alliance dissenting).
Vote No 20 - Correctional Services - put.
Vote agreed to (Democratic Alliance dissenting).
Vote No 21 - Defence and Military Veterans - put.
Division demanded.
The Council divided:
AYES - 38: Adams, F; Boroto, M G; Bloem, D V; Chaane, T E; De Beer, C J; de Beer, O; Dikgale, M C; Duma, S; Feldman, D B; Gamede, D D; Gunda, J J; Jacobs, M P; Magadla, N W; Maine, M C; Makgate, M W; Makhubela, M W; Mashamaite, T A; Mashile, B L; Matila, A G; Memela, T C; Mlenzana, Z; Mncube, B V; Mnguni, B A; Mofokeng, T M H; Montsitsi, S D; Moshodi, M L; Nesi, B; Ntwanambi, N D; Nzimande, L P M; Plaatjie, S H; Qikani, A N D; Rantho, D Z; Rasmeni, R N; Sibande, M P; Sinclair, K A; Shabalala, N B; Tau, R J; Themba, M P.
NOES - 10: Bekker, J M G; Chen, S S; De Villiers, M J R; Faber, W F; Groenewald, H B; Harris, T D; Lees, R A; Van Lingen, E C; Watson, A; Worth, D A.
Vote accordingly agreed to (Democratic Alliance dissenting).
Vote No 22 - Independent Complaints Directorate - put.
Vote agreed to (Democratic Alliance dissenting).
Vote No 23 - Justice and Constitutional Development - put.
Division demanded.
The Council divided:
AYES - 38: Adams, F; Boroto, M G; Bloem, D V; Chaane, T E; De Beer, C J; de Beer, O; Dikgale, M C; Duma, S; Feldman, D B; Gamede, D D; Gunda, J J; Jacobs, M P; Magadla, N W; Maine, M C; Makgate, M W; Makhubela, M W; Mashamaite, T A; Mashile, B L; Matila, A G; Memela, T C; Mlenzana, Z; Mncube, B V; Mnguni, B A; Mofokeng, T M H; Montsitsi, S D; Moshodi, M L; Nesi, B; Ntwanambi, N D; Nzimande, L P M; Plaatjie, S H; Qikani, A N D; Rantho, D Z; Rasmeni, R N; Sibande, M P; Sinclair, K A; Shabalala, N B; Tau, R J; Themba, M P.
NOES - 10: Bekker, J M G; Chen, S S; De Villiers, M J R; Faber, W F; Groenewald, H B; Harris, T D; Lees, R A; Van Lingen, E C; Watson, A; Worth, D A.
Vote accordingly agreed to (Democratic Alliance dissenting).
Vote No 24 - Police - put.
Division demanded.
The Council divided:
AYES - 38: Adams, F; Boroto, M G; Bloem, D V; Chaane, T E; De Beer, C J; de Beer, O; Dikgale, M C; Duma, S; Feldman, D B; Gamede, D D; Gunda, J J; Jacobs, M P; Magadla, N W; Maine, M C; Makgate, M W; Makhubela, M W; Mashamaite, T A; Mashile, B L; Matila, A G; Memela, T C; Mlenzana, Z; Mncube, B V; Mnguni, B A; Mofokeng, T M H; Montsitsi, S D; Moshodi, M L; Nesi, B; Ntwanambi, N D; Nzimande, L P M; Plaatjie, S H; Qikani, A N D; Rantho, D Z; Rasmeni, R N; Sibande, M P; Sinclair, K A; Shabalala, N B; Tau, R J; Themba, M P.
NOES - 10: Bekker, J M G; Chen, S S; De Villiers, M J R; Faber, W F; Groenewald, H B; Harris, T D; Lees, R A; Van Lingen, E C; Watson, A; Worth, D A.
Vote accordingly agreed to (Democratic Alliance dissenting).
Vote No 25 - Agriculture, Forestry and Fisheries - put.
Vote agreed to (Democratic Alliance dissenting).
Vote No 26 - Communications - put and agreed to.
Vote No 27 - Economic Development - put.
Division demanded.
The Council divided:
AYES - 38: Adams, F; Boroto, M G; Bloem, D V; Chaane, T E; De Beer, C J; de Beer, O; Dikgale, M C; Duma, S; Feldman, D B; Gamede, D D; Gunda, J J; Jacobs, M P; Magadla, N W; Maine, M C; Makgate, M W; Makhubela, M W; Mashamaite, T A; Mashile, B L; Matila, A G; Memela, T C; Mlenzana, Z; Mncube, B V; Mnguni, B A; Mofokeng, T M H; Montsitsi, S D; Moshodi, M L; Nesi, B; Ntwanambi, N D; Nzimande, L P M; Plaatjie, S H; Qikani, A N D; Rantho, D Z; Rasmeni, R N; Sibande, M P; Sinclair, K A; Shabalala, N B; Tau, R J; Themba, M P.
NOES - 10: Bekker, J M G; Chen, S S; De Villiers, M J R; Faber, W F; Groenewald, H B; Harris, T D; Lees, R A; Van Lingen, E C; Watson, A; Worth, D A.
Vote accordingly agreed to (Democratic Alliance dissenting).
Vote No 28 - Energy - put and agreed to.
Vote No 29 - Environmental Affairs - put and agreed to.
Vote No 30 - Human Settlements - put and agreed to.
Vote No 31 - Mineral Resources - put.
Vote agreed to (Democratic Alliance dissenting).
Vote No 32 - Rural Development and Land Reform - put.
Division demanded.
The Council divided:
AYES - 38: Adams, F; Boroto, M G; Bloem, D V; Chaane, T E; De Beer, C J; de Beer, O; Dikgale, M C; Duma, S; Feldman, D B; Gamede, D D; Gunda, J J; Jacobs, M P; Magadla, N W; Maine, M C; Makgate, M W; Makhubela, M W; Mashamaite, T A; Mashile, B L; Matila, A G; Memela, T C; Mlenzana, Z; Mncube, B V; Mnguni, B A; Mofokeng, T M H; Montsitsi, S D; Moshodi, M L; Nesi, B; Ntwanambi, N D; Nzimande, L P M; Plaatjie, S H; Qikani, A N D; Rantho, D Z; Rasmeni, R N; Sibande, M P; Sinclair, K A; Shabalala, N B; Tau, R J; Themba, M P.
NOES - 10: Bekker, J M G; Chen, S S; De Villiers, M J R; Faber, W F; Groenewald, H B; Harris, T D; Lees, R A; Van Lingen, E C; Watson, A; Worth, D A.
Vote accordingly agreed to (Democratic Alliance dissenting).
Vote No 33 - Science and Technology - put and agreed to.
Vote No 34 - Tourism - put and agreed to.
Vote No 35 - Trade and Industry - put and agreed to.
Vote No 36 - Transport - put.
Vote agreed to (Democratic Alliance dissenting).
Vote No 37 - Water Affairs - put.
Vote agreed to (Democratic Alliance dissenting).
I am sorry. There is a step that we have skipped. I just want to correct that.
Chairperson, this is a point of order.
I am still dealing with the Schedule.
With the Schedule, yes.
Can we come to the point of order later?
On the Schedule, Chairperson ...
No, there is no point of order on the Schedule.
Chairperson, could you please give me a second? I officially want to welcome the members of the ANC to Cope, because they are here. [Laughter.]
Hon member, let's conclude. Order! Order! Could you please pay attention. Some of us have other business after this. That concludes the Consideration of Votes. I shall now put the whole Schedule. Is there any objection to the Schedule being agreed to? No. Therefore, the Schedule is agreed to.
Schedule put and agreed to.