Chairperson, I would like to respond to a few statements. The first is the hon Dunjwa's statement on the brutal murder in Alice.
I think that part of what we must do is to take these kinds of examples and raise the profile of values and ethics in society. It is important that Parliament pauses and takes note of the murder, but also of other events, such as the one recorded on the front page of the Sowetan on Monday. Society is in need of a wider discourse about values and mutual respect, and it is something that I believe Parliament should be involved with.
In respect of what the hon Madisha said, I want to invite him to read the Sowetan - not the headlines, but the Sowetan article itself - because if he had read what the secretary-general, Mr Mantashe, said, he would not have said what he did in his statement this afternoon. I do not know what his source of information is, but it clearly is not the article on page two of the Sowetan. What the secretary-general of the ANC was saying was that it was unfair to suggest that Justice Mogoeng was too immature or had too little experience, because he had been a judge since 1997.
In the context of the President having called for restraint in the ad hominem attacks on Judge Mogoeng, it is important that we have a rational discourse about it. Moreover, what the secretary - general said - and it should be in the interests of all of us in Parliament - is that we should be concerned about judicial activism which will, in fact, undermine trias politica and overtake the responsibilities of Parliament in lawmaking. Those are the concerns raised, and they are not the kinds of issues that the hon Madisha purports the secretary-general said or attributes to him.
I am very encouraged by the hon Dudley's statement on the National Health Insurance, the NHI. South African doctors have left to join the National Health Service, NHS, in the UK and the publicly funded health system in Canada. Now, we can keep them at home and we can all do this together.
However, it is necessary that we, as South Africans, recognise the importance of the provision of health for all, in the letter and spirit of the Constitution. Let us deal with the issues and accept the principle. Then we can work through the detail, learning as we proceed, and being committed to learn and undertake that learning process. So, I thank you and the ACDP very much for your commitment.
On the issue raised by the hon McIntosh - it is McIntosh, not Makhathini, but McIntosh ... [Laughter.] ... I just want to caution that we should not get too hot under the collar. When individuals go around the country campaigning for more money for what they do outside of a budget process, then we should be concerned. When they also campaign for all kinds of bodyguards, police escorts and so on, we should be a little bit concerned. So, let us not be too excited. Let us look at the work of the Public Protector in the broader context. That is within the realm of what Parliament should do in budgetary oversight.