Hon Deputy President, thank you. The question is as follows. Given the fact that the government acts immorally by continuing to spend; examples like R30 billion a year on managers rather than on underpaid police officers, nurses and teachers, and given that the government continues the immoral practice of cadre deployment which led to state capture ... [Interjections.] ... why should South Africans listen to this government when it talks about morals when it is one of the main perpetrators of immorality in this country? Thank you, hon Speaker. [Applause.]