He was too young to be in the armed struggle, rightly, but I have no doubt he would have taken part. He thinks that if you fire a rifle in the air at an EFF rally that that makes you a soldier. [Laughter.] And the EFF, let me tell you, is all tactics and no strategy. Normally, your tactics, as we
all know and he knows ... he comes from the national democratic tradition. Comrade Malema, why is it that you don't accept this, please? You see, you have a strategy overall and you subordinate your tactics to it. No, no, no! The EFF is tactical. Everything is tactical. So, they swing from one extreme to the other. Identity crisis! One day they are opposing the Public Protector. The next day they are supporting the Public Protector. We don't know what's going on! One day they are opposing state corruption or "state capture" as we call it. The next day they are defending the perpetrators of that corruption.
One day they are supporting ... For example, let me ask you: Can you respond, Mr Shivambu, when you speak? The state is weak. The state-owned enterprises are weak. Even the President and the Minister of Public Enterprises say that. What sort of state is going to be able to take over property completely and disperse it, Mr Malema? Think too, and let's engage around that. Somebody else is going to deal with the land issues. I have only two minutes and 44 seconds left.
So, you can be tactically flexible, but it must be part of an overall strategy, right? Now, the EFF claims to be Marxist, in what sense, you can't tell. Like the DA, you two parties are the opposite sides of the same coin: both suffering from an identity crisis; both don't know where you are going because Mr Zuma is not here anymore. [Laughter.] [Applause.]
This is not to say, President, that we don't have our own internal problems. They are there. Even the peasants in Outer Mongolia know it and the frozen citizens of Alaska know it. We have to do something, Mr President - you and the Deputy President, and the secretary-general wherever he is. I hope he is listening, or at least somebody will convey this to him. [Interjections.]
Let me put this to you. We are a ... [Interjections.] No, no, no! Let me finish. I am about to finish. You will be rid of me. Now look, we are a national liberation movement. We are not a typical party in a cohesive sense like the DA and EFF are meant to be. We are a broad movement of all classes and all strata of the population, and we are in alliance with the SA Communist
Party - mercifully, President - and the Congress of SA Trade Unions, Cosatu, and the SA National Civic Organisation, Sanco.
So, it is obvious we can't be ideologically cohesive, Mr Malema. You know that - in the way you could be and the DA could be. So, what's your reason for not being ideologically cohesive, DA? I don't know. You are a party. [Laughter.] [Applause.] But you know what? We respect the free market. The President, the Deputy President and the Ministers have gone overboard. We believe the free market has a role to play.
We are committed to the private sector. We are not frightening them away. It would be foolhardy and anti-Marxist even, President ... general secretary of the party in your other capacity, you would agree. Now, we are saying: We want a national democratic revolution - advanced, consolidated and deepened. We want a national democratic society in which there is both the market and the state. That's why we reject some of what they say - certainly, everything they say, and some of what they say. The market and the state, right? That's what we want - a co-operative relationship between them.
We are saying that we can't do it on our own as the ANC. We need all of you, despite our differences, despite what I have said here because I was provoked by Ms Chirwa more than Mr Malema. [Laughter.] Mr Malema, by the way ... No, no, no, Mr Malema, I was going to be very conciliatory, Mr Malema, because I saw you on TV and obviously I googled you because I had to do the sweeping. You are much more temperate today than you were in the media, but I can see now you set Ms Chirwa to do the work, right? [Laughter.] [Applause.] Mr Shivambu, you are the Chief Whip of your party. As I know it - when I came here in 1994 - you don't interrupt a maiden speech, but in return the maiden speaker ...