To start with, the first statement is not very factual. It is not very factual to say that our detectives are failures and they don't do their work. Minister, Lamola, he is just gone out. Minister Lamola is 37% overpopulated in prisons - 37%. There is not a single prisoner that has toyi-toyi to prison - not a single one. They are all sent there because detectives and police have done good job. You are not going to get life sentence and you are not going to get 20 years ... [Interjections.] ... No, it is not true that detectives are not doing their work. Otherwise we would not have prisons that are 37% overpopulated - that is one.
However, indeed, in any form of job we are doing including ourselves here, there is always a room for
improvement. Hence, I have said that the Deputy Minister is leading the establishment of a specialised ... and we will give the report even in the portfolio committee of a specialised academy of detectives. We are finding the room for improvement. But, for now, definitely, not a single prisoner that marches there, every prisoner is sent by the good work of detectives, and they are 37% overpopulated.
With regard to communities, that is constitutional and legislated that police must work with the communities. That is why we have structures called the Community Policing Forums, CPFs. Those community structures are legislated. They might not be working very well and all that, but they need to be improved so that they work with communities and the police. Thank you.
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