Chairperson, on a point of order: If Mr Ackermann had consulted with his Whips - and I also indicated this to him in a meeting yesterday - he would have been aware of the fact that there were not going to be statements or debate on this particular matter. This is by consensus by all political parties in this House. I think it is proper that, in future, Mr Ackermann should consult with his Whip, unless there are difficulties of a personal nature between him and Mr Van Niekerk.