Thank you very much, hon member, for that question. There are quite a number of correctional centres that have been accredited and it's growing. If you were listening to my earlier response in isiXhosa - mhlawumbi khange undive [maybe you did not understand me] - I stated that we are working very closely with the Department of Health to make sure that we accredit centres. Surely, we are not going to be able to accredit all centres - all 243 of them in the country - but we will begin with the big ones, which is what we are doing at the present moment.
Again, I, firstly, take my hat off to the Department of Health because the process of accrediting a centre is a long one but we are getting there.
Secondly, we are rolling out the programme, as I mentioned that we are members of Sanac and therefore we have to be in line with government policy in what we are doing in the centres. We are marching at the same pace as government in terms of government policy and not in front of or behind it.
Regarding the statement where you say there is undisputedly a higher incidence of HIV/Aids infection in all correctional centres, I am not sure how many centres you have visited. However, I, who go to these centres, do not have those statistics and that is the reason we carried out this prevalence survey so that it gives us exactly the numbers that we want.
Remember, it is not easy to do that kind of survey and get the results that you think you will get. So I am not sure about your undisputed statistics and I would like to see you visit a centre with me so that we can then talk about that as we walk down the passages of our prisons.
Action taken against Accounting Officer, Director-General and members of audit committee in light of qualified audit by Auditor-General
360. Moulana M R Sayedali-Shah (DA) asked the Minister of Defence:
(1) Whether, in light of the qualified audit given to his department by the Auditor-General for the 2006-07 financial year (details furnished), any action has been taken against (a) the Accounting Officer, (b) the Director-General (name furnished) and (c) the members of the audit committee of his department (names furnished); if not, why not; if so, what action; (2) whether, with reference to his reply to Question 988 on 7 September 2006, any action had been taken against members of his department in respect of the qualified audit report for the 2004- 05 financial year; if not, why not; if so, what are the relevant details? NO2355E