Chairperson, I rise on a point of order. Is it correct for the hon member to proclaim that the policies of a department are racist? I thought that that was not something to be done and to be said in Parliament, so I would like that to be withdrawn.

The HOUSE CHAIRPERSON (Ms C-S Botha): Hon Deputy Minister, you cannot say that a person is racist or a member is racist, but you can say that a party is racist and that a department is racist.