Speaker, I had a very educational experience here, when I did not want to use the word "rubbish". That is what I meant, but I cannot use it in Parliament. I was assisted, very ably assisted, by the hon uMtwana ka Phindangene, former Minister, who said that in Parliament, you can say "hogwash". I was also assisted by Koos van der Merwe, who said it could be called "balderdash". Both of them apply to the hon Maynier. [Laughter.]
Mr Speaker, I insist that I took 35 flights. Your flight of fancy, wherever you meet your journalists, or wherever you get your information, wherever you are handled from, there were 35. I have referred the matter ...