Deputy Speaker and Minister, the EPWP offers people temporary job opportunities to gain some basic skills. The DA's 8% growth policy is geared towards creating permanent jobs. However, as a temporary measure, the EPWP can play a role as a stepping stone. The Department of Public Works report's strategic basis for the new EPWP grant, tabled before the committee, states that municipalities are not spending their budgets. With what you have just answered, Minister, we just want to find out whether the Minister will penalise those municipalities that are not going to utilise their budgets even after the measures that the Minister has just now referred to. Thank you.