Speaker, hon member, you want to give a politician's answer. I want to start where you started, which is that Gaddafi had a dream of Pan-Africanism. As you know, Gaddafi's regime came into power during the days of coups on the continent. There were no rules like the rules we have today, so people would come in and declare their policies, like Gaddafi did. As much as he dreamed of Pan-Africanism, the fact of the matter remains, as I have just described here, that it was something that was just Libya, Jamahiriya, not Pan-Africanism or anything.
As you know, he came in through the coups, he replaced a king through a coup d'tat but he called it a revolution and he continued to say that there had been a revolution in Libya.
Certainly, over the period when he was part of the AU, he said whatever everybody did about standing for Pan-Africanism. I don't think we perused the details of each country or how it was dealing with its policies. As you have heard when I was reading, it was as a socialist kind of thing. You know that at one time it was African socialism - heads of states have said things in the past.
As far as that is concerned, I don't know if I can give certainty as to what type of Pan-Africanism Gadaffi stood for, as many others espouse this kind of policy. These are the debates that have gone on for decades in an attempt to clarify what we mean by this.
Coming back to your question about the Nato countries. I think Africa is faced with a serious problem, as was reflected in Libya where, whilst we are on this continent, countries outside of this continent moved in and continuously bombarded the country for months on end and they did not even listen to the continental organisation when it was saying, "Here is a roadmap". That, I think, poses a challenge. Everybody is clear that the approach between us and those across the Mediterranean is not the same.
I think in the coming joint session of the EU, in particular, and the AU we will have to discuss this matter. How do we relate to the two continents, given the recent experience of Libya? I am sure when the AU meets in January for its annual summit these matters will be discussed. How does one handle this experience and how does one relate to members of Nato? I am sure that the matter will be discussed.