Yes, I apologise. But my point regarding him is that he must always make sure that he does not send apologies to the portfolio committee. [Interjections.] Yes, for every committee meeting he is not there, there is an apology. We are then, with the paper that he has sent to us, not able to discuss issues. As soon as he can attend to that, we can interact with him in a very constructive manner.
The HOUSE CHAIRPERSON (Mr M B Skosana) Hon member, your time has expired. [Applause.]