Speaker, I am sure that the hon member knows very well that he is just expressing wishes. He is just expressing what could happen if this happened. We are dealing with a matter here which is real. Firstly, I have indicated that the Public Protector has a procedure that requires the report to be presented, and the report must be looked at. On the basis of that, it is determined whether there is a case or not.
Now, your question is almost like asking a judge: Will you, at the end, convict this person if you find this person guilty? [Laughter.] Of course, the answer is yes, because once the case is presented, either you find a person guilty or not guilty. If a person is found guilty, there is one way to take action, and that is to convict. If he is not guilty, you don't. Even in - I just want to take the question further, because we need to be very clear - a court of law, the conviction is not the same. The judgment is not the same, even if a person is found guilty. At times, he is given a warning; at times, the judgment is very lenient, depending on the gravity of the crime committed. There is no doubt about it. [Interjections.] Of course, yes, it is part of the law. There is nothing outside of the law. [Interjections.]