Hon Speaker, I have repeatedly said that on this continent we belong to an organisation called the AU. Matters are discussed in the AU and resolutions are taken there. It would be very strange if the AU took collective decisions and South Africa does its own thing. It would be very strange. We have to move with the AU so that we take a decision that this continent would agree to implement collectively. And that's what we have done, not what we think as an individual country. So, that has been the position and it is clear.
As to the telephonic discussion with Gaddafi, I indicated in my reply at the beginning that, as part of our intervention, I discussed matters with him and condemned the actions he was undertaking. I told him that it was wrong and he must stop doing it. From my point of view, this was done as a country. So, that's what we discussed and there was no secret about that.
However, of course, a telephonic conversation between two people is a matter between two people. [Applause.] But, for your just sake, I am telling you what we talked about. [Interjections.] We talked about the UN Security Council and why South Africa was part of those condemning his actions. And we said it correctly, because he was violating the rights of the people. We said it to him, not only through other organisations. That is just to help you because you are inquisitive. [Laughter.] [Applause.]
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