Well, I'm not sure ... Perhaps let me start at the beginning because, as a parting shot, the hon member responded to what I said earlier on. I still insist on what I've said about the statistics, and what he says he got from AgriSA is incorrect. That also takes on board the interaction with AgriSA because, as I said, when it comes to rural safety, all the stakeholders work with the police in so far as this is concerned. I would have to check the follow-up question. It's related to, but not really part of, the question which was raised initially.