So, finally, your thing is working? [Laughter.] I was just wondering what I was supposed to do with your thing that was not working. [Laughter.] [Applause.]
Hon Fritz, I fully agree with you that it's good to go on unannounced visits, because that is where you get to know and understand the system better and how its managers do their work at a centre level. But ... [Interjections.] I'm sorry. [Laughter.] You see now ... [Laughter.] ... Minister of Home Affairs. Which Minister of Home Affairs?
The hon Ellis seems to understand that his thing works better. [Laughter.] [Applause.]