Chair, I think the Minister is in fact wrong. CDWs are confused. They do not know who they report to. The issue that is being raised is a valid one. In fact, I think it's time that government applied its mind to the value of CDWs and to whom they should report.
The first recommendation that was raised at the indaba last week and that received loud applause from the floor - from local government practitioners and not from members here - is that they should be abolished. The second recommendation, as an alternative, was that they should report to ward committees and not to provinces. Does the Minister have a view on that?