Chairperson, hon Doman, I'm on their side. However, this is a curveball; they must act within the law and within the Constitution, so that the rule of law is promoted. We are looking at this matter of incentivising good practice at municipal level, not only at the level of collection, but also at the level of payments in wards. This is because we believe that government and governance must happen at ward level, as it is the lowest level at which the system of governance is.
Now in that respect, we are looking at the possibility of having a situation where, if wards are paying well, we are able to ensure that they are incentivised and they get the money back, so that they are able to be involved in development projects. That's how we are looking at managing these things. Let's manage them in 3 985 wards in South Africa where work has to happen, rather than doing things in the way we have been this far. We want to do things differently as regards the way we conduct ourselves and we believe that, with your support, hon members, we will be able to reach agreement and achieve what has to be achieved. Thank you.