Hon member, you have raised a question with two parts. Firstly, you asked about whether councillors are capacitated. I think you would know that Ministers work with what they have and that councillors are deployed by political parties. This means that I must use whatever I have in institutions. As I have already indicated earlier on in response to the hon Watty, we are looking at governance values. We would like to ensure from the start that we have a good product with good capacity and quality. Going forward we will be discussing these governance values - how to ensure that things are happening.
On the issue of ward committees I must say that the issue of training in South Africa has been abused. Millions and millions have been spent, but if you look at the outcomes, they are very weak. People are like a duck that enters the water and comes out dry. That is why we want to centralise the whole question of training so that we can look at its quality and ensure that whatever money is spent, is worthwhile - that we get value for money.
Training will be done across the country. Earlier on we discussed that we were going to intensify training. But we must do this in a way in which we will get value for money, so that we can appreciate the product and be proud of it. We are attending to this matter and we would like to ensure that South Africa gets better. Thank you very much.