Speaker, member, yes, I am sure the hon member can look and see if she has an ID. If she has, then that's visible progress. [Laughter.]
The fact is that now you can get your passport much quicker than before. You can even get an SMS telling you that your ID is now being printed, your ID has now arrived at the office and now you can fetch your ID. All that is visible progress. I didn't quite understand the question. I hope I've answered it correctly. The fact that you can't go to Shoprite and Pick n Pay to get an ID is visible progress. [Applause.]
Particulars regarding applications for presidential pardon
133. Mr J H van der Merwe (IFP) asked the Minister of Justice and Constitutional Development:
(1) Whether applications for pardon were submitted by certain persons (details furnished); if so, (a) when were the applications received and (b) what progress has been made;
(2) whether he will make a statement on the matter? NO1733E