Chairperson, I don't know whether the Minister is aware that, recently, as a way of tightening their belts, traditional councils and houses were no longer able to serve refreshments for people who attended meetings. [Laughter.] I don't see anything in that to laugh about; I don't think there is anything funny about it.
If the Minister is aware of this, can he do something about it, because I think it is most degrading? It contradicts all the pronouncements that there is respect for traditional leadership. Furthermore, I'm surprised that my colleague, the hon Doman, is so ignorant that he doesn't even know that traditional leaders don't have a budget. So, we have nothing to account for to anyone.