Chairperson, I think the question is a bit remote from the original question. [Laughter.]
UwuVukuza ngempela isibongo ngoba uvukuza umbuzo ongawubuzanga. [Uhleko.] [Your surname is really Vukuza because you scrape for a question which you never asked. [Laughter.]]
All I want to say is that I had two meetings already with Business Unity of South Africa. You would be surprised, Mr Ellis, to hear that I have met twice with real big business, not small fry. [Laughter.]
One of the things we agreed we have to do - I have raised this very sharply with business - is that we need a bigger contribution from them in terms of, amongst other things, places for learnerships; the training of the placement for apprentices. I got a very positive reply that they are actually more than willing to work with my department to build on the work that they've been doing in the past, which is not new, and to accelerate it, given the urgency of a skills revolution in this country.
Angeke ngazi-ke ntombi lapho usho khona ngalena ukuthi kwenzakalani. Mhlawumbe uyongithatha ngenye imini sihambe, siyobona lapho ukuthi kwenziwani laphaya eMpumalanga Koloni. Ngiyabonga kakhulu. (Translation of isiZulu paragraph follows.)
[I would not be in a position, madam, to know what is happening on the other side that you are referring to. Maybe you will go with me one day to see what is happening in the Eastern Cape. Thank you.]