Hon member, that is a decision that I will take. [Interjections.] That is a decision I will take.
Hon members, we do not have a minimum number of members present to pass a piece of legislation. That minimum number is 201 members. That is in terms of the Rules and also derived from the Constitution. We will proceed with the other matters in front of us. We will ring the bells again, and then we will make a determination of the number of members that are present in the House. [Interjections.] We will proceed in that manner.
AYES - 172:Abram, S; Adams, P E; Bam-Mugwanya, V; Bhengu, F; Bhengu,P; Bhengu, N R; Bhoola, R B; Bikani, F C; Booi, M S; Borman, G M; Boshigo, D F; Botha, Y R; Bothman, S G; Burgess, C V; Cele, M A; Chiloane, T D; Chohan, F I; Coleman, E M; Dambuza, B N; Daniels, P N; Davies, R H; De Lange, J H; Diale, L N; Dikobo, K J; Ditshetelo, I C; Dlakude, D E; Dlodlo, A; Dlomo, B J; Dube, M C; Fubbs, J L; Gasebonwe, T M A; Gaum, A H; Gcwabaza, N E; Gelderblom, J P; Gigaba, K M N; Gina, N; Gololo, C L; Goqwana, M B; Gumede, D M; Hajaig, F; Huang, S - B; Jeffery, J H; Johnson, M; Kenye, T E; Khoarai, L P; Khumalo, F E; Khunou, N P; Koornhof, G W; Landers, L T; Lesoma, R M M; Lishivha, T E; Maake, J J; Mabedla, N R; Madlala, N M; Madlopha, C Q; Mafolo, M V; Magagula, V V; Magama, H T; Magubane, E; Makasi, X C; Makhubela-Mashele, L S; Makhubele, Z S; Malale, M l; Malgas, H H; Maluleka, H P; Maluleke, J M; Manamela, K B; Manana, N C; Mandela, Z M D; Manganye, J; Mangena, M S; Mashigo, R M; Mashishi, A C; Masutha, T M; Mathebe, D H; Mathibela, N F; Matlanyane, H F; Matshoba, J M; Mavunda, D W; Mayatula, S M; Maziya, A M; Mdakane, M R; Mfeketo, N C; Mfulo, A; Mgabadeli, H C; Mjobo, L N; Mkhulusi, N N P; Mmusi, S G; Mnisi, N A; Mocumi, P A; Mohai, S J; Mohale, M C; Mohorosi, M; Mokoena, A D; Molebatsi, M A; Moloi-Moropa, J C; Moloto, K A; Moss, L N; Motlanthe, K P; Motsepe, R M; Motshekga, M S; Mpontshane, A M; Msweli, H S; Mthethwa, E M; Mushwana, F F; Muthambi, A F; Nchabeleng, M E; Ndebele, J S; Ndlazi, A Z; Nel, A C; Nelson, W J; Nene, N M; Newhoudt-Druchen, W S; Ngcengwane, N D; Ngcobo, B T; Ngcobo, E N N; Ngele, N J; Ngubeni-Maluleka, J P; Ngwenya, W; Ngwenya-Mabila, P C; Nhlengethwa, D G; Njikelana, S J; November, N T; Ntapane, S Z; Ntuli, Z C; Nxesi, T W; Nyalungu, R E; Nyekemba, E; Oliphant, M N; Pandor, G N M; Petersen-Maduna, P; Phaliso, M N; Pilusa-Mosoane, M E; Radebe, G S; Radebe, B A; Ramodibe, D M; Schneemann, G D; Segale-Diswai, M J; Selau, G J; Sibanyoni, J B; Sibiya, D; Sindane, G S; Sithole, S C N; Sizani, P S; Skosana, M B; Smith, V G; Snell, G T; Sogoni, E M; Sonto, M R; Sosibo, J E; Suka, L; Sulliman, E M; Sunduza, T B; Thibedi, J D; Thobejane, S G; Tobias, T V; Tsebe, S R; Tseke, G K; Tsenoli, S L; Tshabalala, J; Tsotetsi, D R; Turok, B; Twala, N M; Van der Merwe, S C; van Rooyen, D D; van Wyk, A; Wayile, Z G; Williams, A J; Williams-De Bruyn, S T; Xaba, P P; Ximbi, D L; Yengeni, L E.
NOES - 7 : Botha, T; George, M E; Kalyan, S V; Kilian, J D; Meshoe, K R J; Motau, S C; Watson, A.